Gray Matters Podcast

Welcome to “Gray Matters,” a podcast focused on the issues being debated around the modern administrative state — some timeless ones, and some new ones. Here you will find audio from Gray Center events, and other interviews and debates with scholars, practitioners, and policymakers.

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Paul Ray's Critique of the Expertise Rationale for Chevron Deference
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  • Paul Ray's Critique of the Expertise Rationale for Chevron Deference

    Paul Ray's Critique of the Expertise Rationale for Chevron Deference

    Mar 8, 2024 • 00:47:21

    Adam White and Jace Lington chat with former OIRA Administrator Paul J. Ray about his new paper, “Lover, Mystic, Bureaucrat, Judge: The Communication of Expertise and the Deference Doctrines.” In the paper, Mr. Ray critiques the expertise rationale...

  • Equity and the Administrative State

    Equity and the Administrative State

    Mar 1, 2024 • 01:29:09

    The C. Boyden Gray Center for the Study of the Administrative State and the Georgetown Journal of Law & Public Policy recently hosted a series of webinars ahead of a forthcoming symposium on Equity and the Administrative State. This episode of...

  • Racial Classifications and Democratic Institutions

    Racial Classifications and Democratic Institutions

    Feb 23, 2024 • 01:31:17

    The C. Boyden Gray Center for the Study of the Administrative State and the Georgetown Journal of Law & Public Policy recently hosted a series of webinars ahead of a forthcoming symposium on Equity and the Administrative State. This episode of...

  • Disney v. Democracy

    Disney v. Democracy

    Feb 16, 2024 • 00:58:25

    Jace Lington chats with Scalia Law Professor Donald J. Kochan about Florida and Disney. They discuss his recent paper applying public choice theory to Florida’s Reedy Creek Improvement Act of 1967 and why the special treatment Disney received from the...

  • Jed Shugerman's Major Questions About Emergency Powers and Standing

    Jed Shugerman's Major Questions About Emergency Powers and Standing

    Feb 9, 2024 • 01:02:55

    Adam White and Jace Lington chat with Law Professor Jed Handelsman Shugerman about lingering issues following the Supreme Court’s decision in the Biden v. Nebraska student loan case. They discuss a recent paper Shugerman presented at a Gray Center...

  • Michael Ramsey’s Originalist Defense of the Major Questions Doctrine

    Michael Ramsey’s Originalist Defense of the Major Questions Doctrine

    Feb 2, 2024 • 00:52:53

    Adam White and Jace Lington chat with Law Professor Michael D. Ramsey about how originalists can defend the major questions doctrine as a substantive canon of interpretation. He examines post-ratification court practice and other substantive canons...

  • Fixing Deference with Ronald A. Cass

    Fixing Deference with Ronald A. Cass

    Jan 26, 2024 • 00:58:41

    Adam White and Jace Lington chat with Ronald A. Cass about the future of judicial deference to agency actions. They discuss Cass’s recent papers, “Fixing Deference: Delegation, Discretion, and Deference Under Separated Powers,” published by the New...

  • The Future of Financial Regulation Panel 2: What Should Regulate the Financial Regulators?

    The Future of Financial Regulation Panel 2: What Should Regulate the Financial Regulators?

    Dec 19, 2023 • 01:14:11

    The C. Boyden Gray Center for the Study of the Administrative State, the Mercatus Center, and the Journal of Law, Economics & Policy recently hosted a full-day symposium on the future of financial regulation. This episode of Gray Matters is a...

  • The Future of Financial Regulation Panel 1: What is the Future of Financial Regulation?

    The Future of Financial Regulation Panel 1: What is the Future of Financial Regulation?

    Dec 16, 2023 • 01:28:26

    The C. Boyden Gray Center for the Study of the Administrative State, the Mercatus Center, and the Journal of Law, Economics & Policy recently hosted a full-day symposium on the future of financial regulation. This episode of Gray Matters is a...

  • The Future of Financial Regulation: Keynote Conversation with Jelena McWilliams

    The Future of Financial Regulation: Keynote Conversation with Jelena McWilliams

    Dec 13, 2023 • 00:33:01

    This episode of Gray Matters is the first of a three-part series and came out of a recent conference we hosted about the future of financial regulation. In this episode, Adam White speaks with former FDIC Chairman Jelena McWilliams about the current...