Gray Matters Podcast

Welcome to “Gray Matters,” a podcast focused on the issues being debated around the modern administrative state — some timeless ones, and some new ones. Here you will find audio from Gray Center events, and other interviews and debates with scholars, practitioners, and policymakers.

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"Why Congress" with Philip Wallach
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  • "Why Congress" with Philip Wallach

    Jun 29, 2023 • 00:44:13

    Jace Lington talks with AEI’s Philip Wallach about his new book, Why Congress. They discuss what makes Congress central to the American system of representative government and reasons we should look to Congress as the best place to resolve the most...

  • Rethinking Civil Service Management with James-Christian Blockwood

    Rethinking Civil Service Management with James-Christian Blockwood

    Jun 9, 2023 • 00:45:45

    Adam White and Jace Lington talk with James-Christian Blockwood about his recent Government Executive article on civil service reform. They discuss current proposals to make more civil servants removable at will as well as ways to build a nonpartisan,...

  • "You Report to Me" with David Bernhardt

    May 10, 2023 • 00:51:21

    Adam White and Jace Lington talk with former Secretary of the Interior David Bernhardt about his new book, You Report to Me: Accountability for the Failing Administrative State. In the book, Secretary Bernhardt offers his perspective on reforming the...

  • Scalia's Rise

    Scalia's Rise

    May 4, 2023 • 00:45:30

    Jace Lington talks with Adam White about the new book, Scalia: Rise to Greatness, 1936–1986, by James Rosen. They discuss Scalia’s early life and career, including his family, his faith, and his work in private practice and as a lawyer and teacher....

  • Gray Lecture: The Administrative State Debate—A View From the Secretary’s Office

    Gray Lecture: The Administrative State Debate—A View From the Secretary’s Office

    Apr 27, 2023 • 00:49:50

    Former Secretary of Labor Eugene Scalia delivers the Second Annual C. Boyden Gray Lecture on the Administrative State. Following an introduction by Boston University School of Law Dean Emeritus Ron Cass, Secretary Scalia discusses his time working at...

  • Gray Lecture Panel 2: Congress’s Power of the Purse in the Modern Administrative

    Gray Lecture Panel 2: Congress’s Power of the Purse in the Modern Administrative

    Apr 21, 2023 • 01:08:27

    Former Director of the Office of Management and Budget Mick Mulvaney and Stanford Law Professor Michael W. McConnell discuss the importance of Congress's power of the purse in constitutional government, an issue of significant importance in cases now...

  • Gray Lecture Panel 1: What is

    Gray Lecture Panel 1: What is "The Rule of Law" in Administrative Law?

    Apr 13, 2023 • 01:28:37

    Ronald A. Cass, Sally Katzen, and Noah J. Philips kick off the 2023 Annual Gray Lecture with a conversation about the "rule of law" in administrative law. This panel discussion builds on a forthcoming symposium featuring essays on the rule of law that...

  • Judge Glock and the Origins of the Novice Administrative State

    Judge Glock and the Origins of the Novice Administrative State

    Mar 27, 2023 • 45:13

    Adam White and Jace Lington talk with Judge Glock, director of research and senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, about how progressive reformers designed independent regulatory commissions to replace the […]

  • NYU Rule of Law Symposium Keynote Address: Judge Neomi Rao on the Missing Congress

    NYU Rule of Law Symposium Keynote Address: Judge Neomi Rao on the Missing Congress

    Mar 21, 2023 • 25:22

    The Honorable Neomi Rao gives keynote remarks about the tendency of courts to look at tradeoffs between the executive and judicial branches and largely ignore Congress in separation of powers […]

  • NYU Rule of Law Symposium Panel 2: The Roberts Court and the Administrative State

    NYU Rule of Law Symposium Panel 2: The Roberts Court and the Administrative State

    Mar 13, 2023 • 1:14:57

    Professors Gary Lawson and Sally Katzen join Adam White to talk about the Roberts Court and administrative law on a panel moderated by Judge Steven J. Menashi. The discussion came […]